If Moe and Larry had been in "Roast-Beef," I wonder if it might have been a funnier film. I am not sure it would have mattered much.
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Columbia owns the films it produced. It has never owned the intellectual property "The Three Stooges."
"The Three Stooges" was always the property of the act, formalized with the founding of Comedy III in 1959. Norman Maurer Prod. managed the licensing business of Comedy III from 1959 - 1994, and yes, it is believed that Norman did send a "cease and desist" to Epic when that 45rpm came out, but I am not aware of any extant document.
Thanks for posting that video. I tried watching it to see what Curly was watching (although that was a 1953 episode, I'm sure it was similar to what Curly watched when he was alive), but it was pretty painful to watch. I'm guessing that Janie got more of a kick out of it than Curly did.
I also found this, what is billed as "Jackie Gleason's first TV Show" in October 1949:
I know Curly had a massive stroke in the beginning of 1949 but I would bet that he watched the very episode above, and perhaps some of those that followed. I watched a few minutes and it was actually kind of funny.
Summer 2003 -- Issue #106 of The Three Stooges Journal arrives and contains Brent Seguine's article providing additional clues. Most importantly, the article highlights two lines of dialogue written for a chef character in the original script. These include "Fix it yourself...I'm going to lunch" and "Certainly...you don't think I'd eat in this dump." Based on this, it is pretty clear that a small chef role was part of the original plan, and based on the publicity still, that role was intended for Curly.
Last couple of years -- Various issues of Three Stooges Journal have included candid photos of Curly in the post-stroke era. Most show him seated, with a cane. Seeing these photos is wonderful. But they do make clear that Curly’s glory days were behind him by this point in his life. Also fueling the Malice debate has been a series of photo comparisons, showing the facial features of the chef in the publicity still versus the facial characteristics of Curly taken from other sources. In my opinion, these comparisons make clear that the chef in the publicity still is indeed Curly.
2015 – When I look at the Malice publicity still now, I see it in a very different light. I look at the piece of furniture directly behind Curly (to me, it appears to be flush against him) and see it as a support system providing stability so Curly doesn’t fall backwards. Similarly, I see Curly’s left hand on Larry’s head as being a means of maintaining Curly’s balance, with Larry serving as the anchor. Lastly, I wonder if the apron around Curly’s lower body conceals something providing additional support to him, like a brace.
The things that come with the passage of time!
Ref., Mickey Rooney
After the "McGuire" series ended, and before Mickey arrived at MGM renamed Mickey Rooney, he made personal appearances at theaters around the country as 'Mickey McGuire.' One of those appearances was at Cleveland OH's RKO Palace Theater on August 28, 1932. On the bill with Mickey were Ted Healy & His Stooges.
August 28, 1932... the day Jerome 'Curly' Howard premiered in the act. This was the act's next gig after Shemp quit on August 19 in NYC. It's interesting that up until just 1 year ago, an eyewitness to that milestone was still alive.
I've never seen PHONEY CRONIES. I wonder what gives with the generic title cards.
They really didn't. A hefty fee was paid to Sony, and it remains to be seen if sales at that price point will generate a return.
Sounds to me like audio carried over into the next shot from the end of the previous take where Moe conks Joe on the dome. Sometimes Besser would add little things like that at the end of a scene or take, Like in Muscle up.. "Yeah, they're good snoopers! They're..." and you see he's still talkin' during the fade, but it is muted and the scene changes right over.
These foreign language versions have some interesting stuff at times. I remember the Spanish version of CHICKENS COME HOME being an hour long and having some strange and entertaining variety show type stuff, and I think Symona Boniface pops up in one of these that I recall, I want to say the Spanish version of BLOTTO. She sits down on a wet seat and gets her dress all wet. Don't have much to add on the Spanish PARDON US other then to say I would love to see it.
Going through those early shorts yesterday, I was reminded of that existing reel of NOW I'LL TELL ONE. I have been doing research and can't seem to find it on DVD. Do any of you guys know if it's been released?
Sorry to keep throwing this into everyone's face, but here's a reply straight from Warner Archive themselves. It sounds like a Stooge short DVD set is in the works, it's just a question of how long will we have to wait.
I really hope they'll include 'Roast Beef And Movies' on there too, despite that there is only one Stooge instead of the usual three.
Anyway, here it is:
Warner Archive Collection commented on your post.
Warner Archive Collection wrote:
"We will release a collection of MGM Stooges shorts, remastered, including HELLO POP. We do not have any date to announce at this time."
It's okay. I can wait. I just keep mumbling to myself, "I will not become obsessed - I will not become obsessed - I will not become obsessed"
Just for the heck of it, I decided to fire off an e-mail to Warner Archive about this very subject - I've copied it below.
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Would it ever be possible for you to release 'Hello Pop', the long-lost Three Stooges short in the near future?
On behalf of myself, and other die-hard Stooge fans, we'd love to finally see it.
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And notice how I made reference to 'other die-hard Stooge fans', or as they're more commonly known, YOU GUYS!
Just one last question, how exactly did Heavenly Daze end up on the Legend Films Extreme Rarities DVD?
If I'm not mistaken, wasn't it even on a tape with the usual Public Domain shorts?
I recall seeing "So Long, Mr. Chumps" on WTAE-4 in Pittsburgh in the early '70s-probably tuned in in progress-and seeing the original 1940-42 Columbia Short Subject Presentation logo at the end. However when the same short aired years later on then-independent Channel 22 when they had the Stooges the Screen Gems logo was shown at the end as well as the beginning.
In answer to Squirrelbait's question, I can contribute that the Stooges first aired in Boston in maybe '59 or '60 on WNAC-TV channel seven, both before school ( 7 A M ) and after school (4.30 or 5.00 P M). In the early going, they played many non-stooge Columbia shorts as well: I clearly remember Andy Clyde, Buster Keaton, solo Joe DeRita, and ( I think ) El Brendel. I remember Shemp's Mr. Noisy, but that's the only one of his solos I remember. I think I even remember one or two of those boxing shorts, Glove-slingers, or Glove Busters, or whatever they were. The non-stooge shorts were phased out fairly quickly. The morning show had no host, but the evening show was hosted by an actor named Ed. T McDonnell, who played an astronaut character named Major Mudd ( he was pretty damn funny, as I recall 55 years later ) and who appeared as Bat Masterson in The Outlaws is Coming. With the coming of UHF stations later, the Stooges were run on channel 38, whose call letters I don't remember. 38 kept them on for ages, my bet would be that most Bostonian stoogeophiles remember them from 38 rather than 7.