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Title: Goofs not mentioned in the Stooge Info section
Post by: ArPharazon on November 06, 2008, 05:53:14 AM
I'm finding it hard to spot things not already mentioned in this site's "goofs" section, but I did see a couple.  Everybody else, please post anything you might have spotted in the new, cleaner shorts.

In Pardon My Scotch, Curly's overalls are on backwards in the drugstore scenes (Larry's too) (prob'ly my #1 favorite scene(s) in any short).
In Hoi Polloi, I noticed Curly sneaking peaks at the book while he's spelling cat "k-i-t-t-y ... pussy".  I never saw that in the older prints on TV.

There's soit'n'ey a lot of other things I never noticed before the remasters, but so far, all of them have already been mentioned under "goofs", so I didn't want to rehash any of those.
Title: Re: Goofs not mentioned in the Stooge Info section
Post by: xraffle on November 06, 2008, 02:54:57 PM
I don't know if I would consider those goofs, but I'll leave it to the other Team Stooge members to decide whether or not to add those to the goofs section.
Title: Re: Goofs not mentioned in the Stooge Info section
Post by: ArPharazon on November 06, 2008, 09:40:34 PM
^ True.  The overalls could have been completely intentional, and the peeking too.  A lot of what's already in the goofs section I only noticed for the first time watching these cleaned up shorts.  The I looked in there to see if they were mentioned.
Title: Re: Goofs not mentioned in the Stooge Info section
Post by: Lefty on February 16, 2009, 09:56:58 AM
I watched "Quiz Whizz" yesterday on our local station, and there was a double grammatical slip-up:

Larry:  "Does barbecues have pits?"
Joe:  "Incidentally, do barbecue have pits?"

What Larry said may have been part of the script, but with Joe, anything are possible.
Title: Re: Goofs not mentioned in the Stooge Info section
Post by: MR77100 on March 20, 2009, 12:15:59 AM
I have already sent a dozen goofs to the moderator and several have been posted, but five goofs I have sent for BOOBY DUPES have not been listed yet!
Title: Re: Goofs not mentioned in the Stooge Info section
Post by: Dunrobin on March 20, 2009, 09:55:31 AM
I have already sent a dozen goofs to the moderator and several have been posted, but five goofs I have sent for BOOBY DUPES have not been listed yet!

I've been rather busy and haven't had much time to check them yet, myself.  Team Stooge members, feel free to jump in and help check them out!*   ;D


* There should be a link on the Home page that will open a popup linking to the episodes that need approval.  Let me know if you don't see it.
Title: Re: Goofs not mentioned in the Stooge Info section
Post by: xraffle on March 20, 2009, 10:17:34 AM
I've been rather busy and haven't had much time to check them yet, myself.  Team Stooge members, feel free to jump in and help check them out!*   ;D

I've been very busy as well. But I have a few minutes to spare right now, so I'll get to work on it. Right now, there are 17 goofs that need approval. :o
Title: Re: Goofs not mentioned in the Stooge Info section
Post by: xraffle on March 20, 2009, 10:41:51 AM
I have already sent a dozen goofs to the moderator and several have been posted, but five goofs I have sent for BOOBY DUPES have not been listed yet!

Ok, I looked through all your goofs. I approved most of them, but some of them I had to disapprove and here's why:

A Pain In The Pullman
Moe's crab 
The crab parts that Moe was gingerly chewing on were sugar-coated replicas because he hated shellfish with a passion. Regardless, he was STILL worried that the real crab shell was underneath.

-This is very similar to the first goof posted.

Punch Drunks
Curly was injured 
Curly was fighting against a real pro boxer in this short and received a bloody nose and a cut lip!

-This is more of a trivia than a goof.

Fuelin’ Around
Cut in music 
The first second of the "Three Blind Mice" theme is cut off at the beginning.

-This music cut off is only on the VHS release and I think it's also on the AMC copy as well. But I've seen this short on TV without the cut-off. I think this was a problem with the just the one particular print of that short. So, I wouldn't consider this a goof.

Musty Musketeers
music from the wrong era 
For some reason, this episode begins with the "Three Blind Mice" theme from the 1949-1952 Shemp era, although it ends with the version from the 1953-1955 era.

-I think this may have been done intentionally. This has happened on other shorts as well, particularly the remakes. I don't really consider this a goof.
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There is one goof I didn't touch yet:
Baby Sitters Jitters
still wet
When Shemp starts sipping the soup, he is still wet from the bottle that Moe smashed over head earlier!

-I don't recall Shemp getting hit in the head with a bottle and getting all wet. I believe it was only Larry that got wet. My memory might not be cooperating with me at this moment, so I'll leave that goof open for the other Team Stooge members to decide.

EDIT- I remember now. He says "There's a thousand reasons why I shouldn't drink and I can't think of one right now." Then Moe smashes the bottle on Shemp's head. But I believe that the blowing bubble occurs shortly after this happens, so even if it was a goof, it fits right in. In fact, it would be more of a goof if his hair is completely dry. I'll let the other Team Stooge members decide. If they don't do anything within the next few days, I'm afraid I might have to scratch that one out.
Title: Re: Goofs not mentioned in the Stooge Info section
Post by: Dunrobin on March 20, 2009, 10:49:23 AM
Thanks for going through those so fast, X!

Quote
-This is more of a trivia than a goof.

Good point.

Hmmm...  I think that I should add another section for Trivia.   ;D
Title: Re: Goofs not mentioned in the Stooge Info section
Post by: MR77100 on March 20, 2009, 06:34:13 PM
Yes you probably should add a trivia section, since I am notorious for digging up trivia from everywhere!
Title: Re: Goofs not mentioned in the Stooge Info section
Post by: xraffle on March 20, 2009, 08:52:25 PM
Hmmm...  I think that I should add another section for Trivia.   ;D

Yes you probably should add a trivia section, since I am notorious for digging up trivia from everywhere!

Yeah, not a bad idea. I have some three stooges books here at home with some trivia, which I can add to the filmography. Also, I can think of a few right now from the top of my head.
Title: Re: Goofs not mentioned in the Stooge Info section
Post by: Dunrobin on March 21, 2009, 01:44:08 PM
It's in the works.   ;)
Title: Re: Goofs not mentioned in the Stooge Info section
Post by: archiezappa on March 21, 2009, 05:43:53 PM
Yes!  This is a great idea!  I'm talking about having trivia for the Stooge shorts and movies on the website.  It would really add something good to the filmography.  Having those little "did you knows" along the way will be totally cool.  Awesome!
Title: Re: Goofs not mentioned in the Stooge Info section
Post by: Dunrobin on March 21, 2009, 07:44:28 PM
Here's what I am thinking for the Stooges Trivia section:


I've already created the database table for the feature, and I should have the coding finished by tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Goofs not mentioned in the Stooge Info section
Post by: xraffle on April 02, 2009, 11:49:32 AM
Just a little note to all members who want to add Goofs in the Goofs section- it would make our job easier if you would make sure your typing is grammatically correct with proper capitalization and punctuation. Also, when typing in the title of the goof, make sure the first letter of each word is capitalized (ex: Visible Strings). Also, please proofread for typos, as well.

The reason I make this request is because sometimes there are over 20 goofs that need to be reviewed and most of the time they're filled with typos and improper grammar. Therefore, I have to reword or correct any mistakes before approving the goof. This takes time and it will take longer for your goof to appear, especially when there are several goofs that need approval.
Title: Re: Goofs not mentioned in the Stooge Info section
Post by: FineBari3 on April 02, 2009, 03:32:33 PM
Just a little note to all members who want to add Goofs in the Goofs section- it would make our job easier if you would make sure your typing is grammatically correct with proper capitalization and punctuation. Also, when typing in the title of the goof, make sure the first letter of each word is capitalized (ex: Visible Strings). Also, please proofread for typos, as well.

The reason I make this request is because sometimes there are over 20 goofs that need to be reviewed and most of the time they're filled with typos and improper grammar. Therefore, I have to reword or correct any mistakes before approving the goof. This takes time and it will take longer for your goof to appear, especially when there are several goofs that need approval.

Word.   [afro]

I'd also like to clarify what proper capitalization is.  Capitalization is done by hitting the shift key; life is not one big text message!
Title: Re: Goofs not mentioned in the Stooge Info section
Post by: ArPharazon on June 24, 2009, 05:52:48 AM
With the release of Vol.6, and my favorite Shempisode The Ghost Talks, I think I heard a goof not mentioned.

When the armor "pays out" Moe says "you really are a friendrey spirit.  R instead of L.  Intentional, or another Moe line flub?
Title: Re: Goofs not mentioned in the Stooge Info section
Post by: middlenamewayne on October 11, 2009, 01:26:34 AM
I can't find my copy of "Rockin' In The Rockies" right now, but you may recall that in it, Moe's character is named Shorty. Nevertheless, in one chaotic scene (involving a moose head, iirc) Curly can clearly be heard to call him Moe!

  - mnw
Title: Re: Goofs not mentioned in the Stooge Info section
Post by: Sadistic Stooge on October 11, 2009, 10:09:33 AM
yes yes I notice that too , but never put it in the Rockin' In The Rockies goofs .  good ear :)
Title: Re: Goofs not mentioned in the Stooge Info section
Post by: middlenamewayne on October 11, 2009, 07:05:52 PM
yes yes I notice that too , but never put it in the Rockin' In The Rockies goofs .  good ear :)

Actually, there doesn't seem to be an entry for RITR, tho Rockin' THROUGH The Rockies lists six goofs...

   - mnw
Title: Re: Goofs not mentioned in the Stooge Info section
Post by: StoogeLady on November 22, 2009, 04:22:38 PM
Hi, I'm a newbie - sorry I'm nitpicking so early, but I believe Thanksgiving Day in 1955 when Shemp died was on the 24th - Shemp died on the 22nd - yes?  I noticed somewhere on this site it said that Shemp died on Thanksgiving Day.

Love the web site! 
Title: Re: Goofs not mentioned in the Stooge Info section
Post by: BeAStooge on November 22, 2009, 04:53:21 PM
I noticed somewhere on this site it said that Shemp died on Thanksgiving Day.

No... that's a list of calendar events in the coming week. In-between Shemp's death notice and Thanksgiving is a comma... 2 separate events.
Title: Re: Goofs not mentioned in the Stooge Info section
Post by: FineBari3 on November 23, 2009, 08:22:36 AM
Hi, I'm a newbie - sorry I'm nitpicking so early, but I believe Thanksgiving Day in 1955 when Shemp died was on the 24th - Shemp died on the 22nd - yes?  I noticed somewhere on this site it said that Shemp died on Thanksgiving Day.

Love the web site! 

That was the upcoming events section. It lists the next event, which happens to be Thanksgiving.

Nice to have you here! Are you in the Fan Club?

(another Stooges female fan)
Title: Re: Goofs not mentioned in the Stooge Info section
Post by: Lefty on January 18, 2010, 09:56:29 AM
In "Three Little Beers," the handbill about the golf tournament states a date on it -- Sun. Dec. 19, 1935.  Well, they obviously didn't mean Sunday December 19, 1937.  So they meant either Sunday December 15 (a possibility, but maybe a bit too cold, even in Lala-land), Sunday May 19 (way before the short was taped), or Thursday December 19 (not a day for a golf tournament).
Title: Re: Goofs not mentioned in the Stooge Info section
Post by: locoboymakesgood on January 19, 2010, 01:08:44 AM
In "Three Little Beers," the handbill about the golf tournament states a date on it -- Sun. Dec. 19, 1935.  Well, they obviously didn't mean Sunday December 19, 1937.  So they meant either Sunday December 15 (a possibility, but maybe a bit too cold, even in Lala-land), Sunday May 19 (way before the short was taped), or Thursday December 19 (not a day for a golf tournament).
Maybe you've never been to Southern California, but people golf year-round. Especially when its in the 60s and 70s in December.
Title: Re: Goofs not mentioned in the Stooge Info section
Post by: Lefty on May 30, 2011, 09:34:09 AM
A different type of goof:  Closed Captioning.

I can understand the C.C. words being "Speaking Gibberish" for when the Stooges are making up sounds or using Yiddish words.  But for normal words, there were about a dozen goofs in the C.C. for "A Pain in the Pullman."  I disremember the vast majority, but maybe next time I'll write down everything -- or just skip using the C.C. when I watch the show.
Title: Re: Goofs not mentioned in the Stooge Info section
Post by: kinderscenen on June 28, 2011, 05:22:38 PM
Man, oh, MAN!  I would give a complete stranger's first born to actually get a correct spelling of the Yiddish words that they (especially Larry) throw about.  In "Mutts to You", (in a rather funny double take by Bud Jamison), he throws out something, but all I can get is (I think!) "I don't mean maybe!" Or "Stop bothering me..." 

But then, do I really expect correct captioning here, when I can turn on the evening news and see all sorts of unperfectly cromulent words being used.  I know it's speech recognition software nowadays, but damn!
Title: Re: Goofs not mentioned in the Stooge Info section
Post by: ThunderStooge on June 29, 2011, 11:49:38 PM
Speaking of incorrect closed captions, YouTube's software is absolutely pathetic.  It's a goldmine!
(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/1751/snapshot20110421190427.png)
(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/9608/snapshot20110421190933.png)
Title: Re: Goofs not mentioned in the Stooge Info section
Post by: Giff me dat fill-em! on July 25, 2014, 10:44:10 AM
In "Grips, Grunts and Groans" ... when the boys run into the Hangover Gym from the railroad guys, Moe is carrying the suitcase with his hand palm inward. In the next shot, Moe's hand is holding the case palm outward.
Title: Re: Goofs not mentioned in the Stooge Info section
Post by: middlenamewayne on July 26, 2014, 04:38:48 PM
Noone ever mentions the long-term continuity goofs here! Like:

In the Stooges' 1st fill-um, "Soup To Nuts" there are 4 of them (plus a boss man and a girl) - one with bangs, one with wild wavy hair, one with greasy wild straight hair and another who is... well, different. Then in "Nertzery Rhymes" the Stooges' fourth member is gone (along w/boss & gal) and the 3rd one has gotten much heftier and has almost no hair. Get this, too: all have normal skin tones, but in "Soup" previously, and later in "Plane Nuts" and most everything else up to "Snow White and the 3 Stooges" they all appear to be ashen-gray -- and everything and everyone around them is some bland shade of gray also! ("Snow White" is strange title to pick for the return of color, eh?) Still later, in "Hold That Lion" there are 4 again, including the fat one and the greasy ugly one, but almost immediately after, they're back down to 3 again, with the fat one absent.

That's not even the end of it, though! Abruptly, around the time of "Space Ship Sappy" or so the third one has gotten (sort of) fat and bald again, but has a different look and radically altered personality -- smarter but still juvenile in a sassy, irritating way. That doesn't last long, though -- by the time of "Have Rocket, Will Travel", he's ballooned up bigger than ever, and his IQ has dropped massively, but again there's a change; he's not so much demented as retarded (pardon the un-PC term). Finally, these three stop changing personality-wise, but weirdest of all, they first go from gray to pink/peach in their skin tones again, and finally -- they become more colorful, flat-looking, and have black outlines! (I could swear I saw them growing extended metal limbs once around this time, but I think my imagination ran away with me at that point!

  - mnw

PS: Oh, yeah, one last thing: Whenever you see the Stooges in anything, try to check the date it was released. This will really blow your mind, but it's true... in their 1930s films they all look very young, in the 40s they look a little older, and so on. They continue to look older and move more slowly through the 50s, 60s, etc... until those very last appearances I mentioned, in which their ages are pretty much indeterminable.

Haven't seen them in anything since the 70s that I can think of (apart from weird brief cameos on such odd shows as Celebrity Deathmatch, SCTV, Family Guy, Carol Burnett Show, and like that). Did they retire? I heard something about a recent feature film and an upcoming new two-reeler, but haven't managed to catch either one...

 
Title: Re: Goofs not mentioned in the Stooge Info section
Post by: Giff me dat fill-em! on August 11, 2014, 07:27:57 PM
Noone ever mentions the long-term continuity goofs here! Like:

In the Stooges' 1st fill-um, "Soup To Nuts" there are 4 of them (plus a boss man and a girl) - one with bangs, one with wild wavy hair, one with greasy wild straight hair and another who is... well, different. Then in "Nertzery Rhymes" the Stooges' fourth member is gone (along w/boss & gal) and the 3rd one has gotten much heftier and has almost no hair. Get this, too: all have normal skin tones, but in "Soup" previously, and later in "Plane Nuts" and most everything else up to "Snow White and the 3 Stooges" they all appear to be ashen-gray -- and everything and everyone around them is some bland shade of gray also! ("Snow White" is strange title to pick for the return of color, eh?) Still later, in "Hold That Lion" there are 4 again, including the fat one and the greasy ugly one, but almost immediately after, they're back down to 3 again, with the fat one absent.

That's not even the end of it, though! Abruptly, around the time of "Space Ship Sappy" or so the third one has gotten (sort of) fat and bald again, but has a different look and radically altered personality -- smarter but still juvenile in a sassy, irritating way. That doesn't last long, though -- by the time of "Have Rocket, Will Travel", he's ballooned up bigger than ever, and his IQ has dropped massively, but again there's a change; he's not so much demented as retarded (pardon the un-PC term). Finally, these three stop changing personality-wise, but weirdest of all, they first go from gray to pink/peach in their skin tones again, and finally -- they become more colorful, flat-looking, and have black outlines! (I could swear I saw them growing extended metal limbs once around this time, but I think my imagination ran away with me at that point!

  - mnw

PS: Oh, yeah, one last thing: Whenever you see the Stooges in anything, try to check the date it was released. This will really blow your mind, but it's true... in their 1930s films they all look very young, in the 40s they look a little older, and so on. They continue to look older and move more slowly through the 50s, 60s, etc... until those very last appearances I mentioned, in which their ages are pretty much indeterminable.

Haven't seen them in anything since the 70s that I can think of (apart from weird brief cameos on such odd shows as Celebrity Deathmatch, SCTV, Family Guy, Carol Burnett Show, and like that). Did they retire? I heard something about a recent feature film and an upcoming new two-reeler, but haven't managed to catch either one...

 

... long term continuity goofs ... (Black and White to Color/ Curley-Curly-Curly-Joe/ Curly-Shemp-Besser/ Young-Middle-Old/) ... that's a strange but acceptable concept
Title: Re: Goofs not mentioned in the Stooge Info section
Post by: PresidentWardRobey on September 28, 2014, 11:47:15 AM
A few "inconsistencies" I noticed in Slippery Silks.  The opening shot of two hands holding a photo of the Stooges.  The way it is shot, I am assuming it's meant to be from the police chief's perspective.  However, when the camera comes around to the front of the desk, the police chief is only holding the photo with his left hand while his right is resting on the desktop for that entire scene.

After the close up shot of Curly and Larry painting glue on the Chinese cabinet (and Moe's hands) the next camera shot shows all 3 Stooges.  You can see that Larry has "glue" on the side of his face that's facing the camera, but how did it get there?  That scene only shows Curly receiving an eye poke from Moe.

After running out of Romani's Woodwork Shop to get away from Mr. Morgan:  Moe and Larry (and eventually Curly) run past the lawyer and detectives in front of a corner drugstore and continue across the street.  When all the Stooges are rounded up (by both the detectives and the woman), I believe they are still in front of the same drugstore, just that the scene is shot around the corner from the original camera shot.  They show the detectives and lawyer running into the scene from left to right to nab Curly as if they ran across the street, but in reality, I don't think so.
Title: Re: Goofs not mentioned in the Stooge Info section
Post by: Desmond Of The Outer Sanctorum on December 05, 2014, 12:03:59 PM
Here's something I thought I saw in "Out West" (repeated in "Pals and Gals"):

When Moe is pouring the sarsaparilla for Shemp into what's supposed to be the last empty glass on the tray, look closely at the glass behind the one he pours into. Before it gets hidden by the dark drink that Moe's pouring, that one can be seen to be empty as well!

Or was I seeing things?
Title: Re: Goofs not mentioned in the Stooge Info section
Post by: Lefty on December 07, 2014, 10:34:25 AM
In several shorts, a newspaper is shown with various articles with statements about how someone or something did something, etc., so as not to point out real people.  In "Hold That Lion," where Shemp is reading the newspaper about the Ambrose Rose estate, check out the blurb above it with the title "Eager to Aid in War."  The lines seem to have been put in from random statements here and there.  "Anna laid her wonderful" is at the end of it.  Also, in the article to the left, a person named Carl Smith from Duncannon, PA is listed, which goes against the aforementioned anonymity situation.

Speaking of which, rolling up the sidewalks as it were, from that place's website:
"Duncannon Borough will be closed on Wednesday afternoon, December 24 and Christmas Day, December 25, 2014".
Title: Re: Goofs not mentioned in the Stooge Info section
Post by: GreenCanaries on January 05, 2015, 11:13:12 AM
One thing I notice watching Brideless Groom: Shemp doesn't appear to know his Uncle Caleb passed... yet how would he know the reading of the will was 6 o'clock the night before last? EDIT: Never mind, Moe said it, not Shemp.

Also, in A Plumbing We Will Go, when Larry and Curly fall out of the plumbing truck, Curly's hat falls off, and then when it cuts back to them getting up ("Hey! Why don't you call your stops?!"), Curly's hat is back on his head!
Title: Re: Goofs not mentioned in the Stooge Info section
Post by: Paul Pain on January 05, 2015, 01:16:26 PM
Pest Mans Wins: There are cats inside the piano (when Vernon Dent is playing "On the Beautiful Blue Danube").  The cats are playing notes, messing up Dent's performance.

GOOF: When Shemp, and then Moe and Larry, climb on the piano to get the cats out, they slam the keys of the piano violently, yet no sound comes out.
Title: Re: Goofs not mentioned in the Stooge Info section
Post by: Giff me dat fill-em! on January 16, 2015, 04:03:45 PM
Not a real goof ... but an apt observation. The episode "Muscle Up a Little Closer" has Joe falling and breaking a case of eggs. He sits up and has eggshells on his nose and forehead. He wipes them off saying, "Raw eggs, I HATE raw eggs!" The following scenes have Joe with two eggshell remnants on his forehead until the scene where the boys are in the gym exercising. My point is ... WHY did filmmakers spend so much time on that detail when countless nitpicks in the past revealed an almost abandon for visual continuity in Three Stooged shorts?
Title: Re: Goofs not mentioned in the Stooge Info section
Post by: StoogeMania on August 27, 2016, 07:04:41 AM
In Disorder in the Court, Curly is playing Jacks, and messes up the Tic-Tac-Toe game as he picked up all the jacks. If you look closely, there's one jack left close to Moe's knee. After the cut to the attorney, the jack is suddenly missing.
Also, when Curly and Larry are playing a tune on Moe, the correct name of thr tune is Ach Du Lieber, Augustine", (in English, Oh, My Dear, Augustine), a German nursery song.