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Weekly Episode Discussions / Re: Bubble Trouble (1953)
« on: January 29, 2018, 08:44:01 AM »
It seems to me the virtual reconstruction of BUBBLE TROUBLE and the previous RIP, SEW AND STITCH, may have been due to the added expense of 3-D shooting for the prior two shorts SPOOKS! and PARDON MY BACKFIRE.

They were not the prior two shorts produced, they were filmed 8 and 9 months later.
  • BUBBLE TROUBLE and RIP, SEW AND STITCH new scenes filmed October 13 - 14, 1952
  • SPOOKS! May 11 - 15, 1953; PARDON MY BACKFIRE June 30 - July 6, 1953

All of the remaining Columbia series (e.g., Andy Clyde, Vernon & Quillan, Joe Besser) went to a stock footage remake policy in the spring of 1952 as an overall cost-cutting measure.

General Discussion / Re: Shemp's Income
« on: January 27, 2018, 12:46:13 AM »
I assume personal appearances would have to be taken into account here as well.

Film work only, Shemp's tax records show a substantial earnings increase beginning in mid-1946 and in 1947, vs. 1943 - 1945.  The Journal article presents the numbers by studio for each year.

General Discussion / Re: Shemp's Income
« on: January 26, 2018, 01:31:22 PM »
His income increased substantially, as discussed in detail in The Three Stooges Journal # 156 (Winter 2015), per his W-2 and 1040 tax documents on file in The Stoogeum's research archives. 

Questions and Answers / Re: Roast-Beef And Movies
« on: December 21, 2017, 09:56:31 AM »
I do also wonder how the difference in workload at Universal might have impacted on Curly's health, as Feature Length comedies then rather tended towards padding of some scenes that often involved different players.  Would a longer lifespan for Jerome "Curly" Howard have resulted?

1934 - 1950, they worked only 5 - 6 weeks per year at Columbia doing the shorts.  That studio's demands had no impact on Curly's health, and ongoing tales to the contrary (i.e., the Fleming book) are myths.

Any workload that contributed to his self-destructive lifestyle/habits were the team's own personal appearance bookings, which took up an average of 20 weeks per year during their mid-'30s to mid-'40s height, with 1939 and 1940 the most at 6 and 7 months respectively.

General Discussion / Re: Eddie Cantor with Moe, Larry & Shemp
« on: August 20, 2017, 05:57:29 PM »
CANTOR was filmed in color.  What defunct syndicator and production company ZIV did with those prints is unknown and they're assumed long-gone.  The Cantor Estate's archives, managed by his grandson Brian Gari, has only B&W prints which have been the source of licensed footage circulated on DVD and some TV specials.

General Discussion / Hal Fryar, OUTLAWS Costar and TV Host, 90
« on: June 26, 2017, 09:31:59 AM »
THE OUTLAWS IS COMING (1965) costar Hal Fryar ('Johnny Ringo') has died in Bradenton FL.  From 1960 - 1972 as 'Harlow Hickenlooper', Hal hosted the Stooges' comedies on his children's show for WFBM-TV in Indianapolis.  He was 90. 

Hal's family posted the sad news on his Facebook page this morning.

Questions and Answers / Re: The Stooges on Epic Records???
« on: June 19, 2017, 12:57:39 PM »
I wonder also just who owned The Three Stooges name at that time. I don't think C3 Productions was even in business yet then. If I were to guess, I would say it was owned by Columbia/Screen Gems at that time and perhaps if they were even aware of this record at the time, may have figured it just wasn't worth suing over.

Columbia owns the films it produced.  It has never owned the intellectual property "The Three Stooges." 

"The Three Stooges" was always the property of the act, formalized with the founding of Comedy III in 1959.  Norman Maurer Prod. managed the licensing business of Comedy III from 1959 - 1994, and yes, it is believed that Norman did send a "cease and desist" to Epic when that 45rpm came out, but I am not aware of any extant document.

General Discussion / Re: Ask Team Stooge **NEWBIES**
« on: June 19, 2017, 11:43:22 AM »
Can anybody provide some additional details about these two films in the database?

Screen Snapshots Series 13 # 5
Screen Snapshots Series 22 # 8

The first one lists Chico Marx as a cast member, and the second lists the Marx Brothers and the Ritz Brothers as well as the Stooges. This seems pretty notable. Is it known if they're in any scenes with the other brothers?

SCREEN SNAPSHOTS were paparazzi one-reelers distributed by Columbia 1924 - 1958, showing celebs at work and play around Hollywood.  The Stooges and brothers Marx & Ritz shared no footage.

R.I.P. Maury Dexter, who appeared in UNCIVIL WAR BIRDS (1946) with Moe, Larry & Curly.  Maury died on May 28, two weeks shy of his 90th birthday.

Turning to a career behind the camera, Maury was friends with Michael Landon and became Asst. Director and Director for the TV shows LITTLE HOUSE ON THE PRAIRIE and HIGHWAY TO HEAVEN.

An interview with Maury appeared in The Three Stooges Journal # 136 (Winter 2010).

Obituary -  Ventura County Star

General Discussion / Re: Eddie Cantor with Moe, Larry & Shemp
« on: May 16, 2017, 07:14:21 AM »
TV and Radio Guest Appearances are not part of the main Filmography, and are indexed separately.

General Discussion / Re: Question Stooge Replacements
« on: April 17, 2017, 05:51:42 PM »
All roles were played by Doodles Weaver.

If you scroll down, you'll see a listing of episodes for George Jessel and Norma Talmadge's show 30 Minutes in Hollywood and the 4th episode features Ted Healy's "Super Stooges." If I had to guess, the Stooges in this are probably Mousie Garner, Dick Hakins, and Sammy Wolfe, as the program premiered on October 10, 1937 and ended on July 3, 1938, meaning it probably aired around the time of those GOOD NEWS programs. I know it's not technically the Stooges, but maybe it could be listed under miscellaneous appearances?

Yes, it is Mousie, Sammy and Dick.  Ted Healy did not participate in the broadcast, and for that reason it is not included.

General Discussion / The Three Stooges Journal # 161 (Spring 2017)
« on: March 20, 2017, 05:12:12 PM »
Issue # 161 of The Three Stooges Journal is arriving in mailboxes.  In addition to more Stooge-related articles and news, several pages are dedicated to the memory of our friend Frank Reighter.

Paul really gives Ted Healy the business.

As the narrator.

Paul did not script the documentary, it was done by his producing partner Frank Basile.  Paul brought the concept and family angle to the project, and by his own admission, spent decades keeping his distance from his father's career and knows very little about Ted Healy.  He relied on Frank to tell the "Three Stooges story."  Sadly, Basile bought into many of the negative, untrue legends and myths about Healy.  He notably utilized tales concocted by G. P. Skratz in "Larry, the Stooge in the Middle." 

That chapter is a black eye in what otherwise is a well-done production.

Weekly Episode Discussions / Re: Snow White and the Three Stooges (1961)
« on: January 02, 2017, 11:11:01 AM »
According to Wikipedia, Fox made the decision.  With Tashlin, the budget was $750,000; with Lang, 3.5 million.  My guess is the studio decided to go in a different direction overall with both change of directors AND budgets.  Who knows, maybe this was initially more Stooge oriented, I'll have to do more research.

This was covered in detail recently in "The Three Stooges Journal," reporting the extensive information contained in the film's production files, which were obtained two years ago by The Stoogeum.

Tashlin's involvement is not documented, only reported in "Scrapbook" and assumed to originate from Norman Maurer's recollections.  Evidence indicates that IF it's true that Tashlin was originally involved, that never extended beyond the discussion stage.

From 20th Century Fox's records, Walter Lang is the only credited director on every document (and there're hundreds), including the very first call sheets and payroll records going back to the beginning of skater rehearsals and cast screen tests in mid-November 1960.

Weekly Episode Discussions / Re: Pies and Guys (1958)
« on: November 11, 2016, 08:12:09 PM »
(If I recall correctly, he doesn't get hit with pies in any other Stooges short.)

Joe took a chocolate cake in the face in FLYING SAUCER DAFFY (1958).

It bears repeating that the depiction of Joe in the 2000 TV movie was pure bullshit.  Sadly, social media of the past 17 years has turned dramatized bs like that into accepted "truth."

Questions and Answers / Re: Which episode?
« on: November 08, 2016, 09:15:23 AM »
Ted Healy, Curly, Moe and Larry in HOLLYWOOD PARTY (1934 MGM).

General Discussion / The Three Stooges Journal # 159 (Fall 2016)
« on: September 17, 2016, 09:57:34 AM »
The Three Stooges Journal # 159 (Fall 2016), is now arriving in subscribers' mail boxes.  An index summary of contents is available at the link.

General Discussion / The Three Stooges Journal # 158 (Summer 2016)
« on: June 17, 2016, 10:34:21 AM »
The Three Stooges Journal # 158 (Summer 2016), is now arriving in subscribers' mail boxes. An index summary of contents is available at the link.

Weekly Episode Discussions / Re: Fling in the Ring (1955)
« on: May 19, 2016, 07:47:47 AM »
... look at the way Columbia worked Curly like a workhorse after his stroke

A myth.  The Stooges always had a light filming schedule at Columbia, and the 1945 - 1946 period was no exception. 

The majority of their work involved personal appearances, which were arranged by Moe and the team's reps, and that is where Curly unwisely continued to work tough schedules during his progressing illness.

Weekly Episode Discussions / Re: Fling in the Ring (1955)
« on: May 14, 2016, 03:17:23 PM »
I know they had a busy calendar for personal appearances, and their filming kept them busy,

Not the case at all in 1955.  Market demand for the Stooges left them largely, involuntarily, inactive from 1954 - 1958.

  • Personal appearances began diminishing after 1949.  Following an unsuccessful attempt in Vegas in 1953 (details in The Three Stooges Journal # 155), this part of their livelihood virtually dried up.  Excluding the possibility of private events that were not promoted, the Live Appearance Database project in over 10 years has yet to find documentation for any personal appearances with Shemp during 1954 - 1955, and none with Besser 1956 - 1957.  It took TV to reignite their personal appearance demand in 1959.
  • During their shorts popularity in the '30s and '40s, they spent only 32 - 35 days in front of the camera at Columbia.  After the 1953 stock remakes kicked in, they worked only 9 - 15 days a year.  That increased by several days during Besser's two years, due to the inability to rely on stock footage.

General Discussion / Re: Offbeat question
« on: May 12, 2016, 05:00:34 PM »
There's a racy joke with the punchline, "Make bigger circles!"

Can be found in HORSING AROUND (1957).

General Discussion / Re: Ask Team Stooge **NEWBIES**
« on: March 31, 2016, 06:35:47 AM »
The Dean at my University is a huge Stooges fan. He also comes from Chicago. I mentioned to him that Gary Deeb had written an article on Curly Howard for one of the Chicago newspapers back in the 1980s. I believe that the article appeared in one of the Three Stooges Journals as well. Does anyone know how I can get a copy of the article? I like to keep my Dean happy.

Three Stooges Journal # 10 (Feb. 1981)
(from the ol' Moe Feinberg's Underwood typewriter days)

  • "Stooge Fever Is Spreading With Channel 32 Help -  Chicago Sun Times  11/26/80
  • "Three Stooges:  A Trio Con Brio -  Chicago Sun Times  10/3/80

Stooges DVD/VHS/Home Video / Re: 1911 Moe appearance
« on: March 26, 2016, 11:38:13 AM »
I also lean heavily towards it not being Moe Howard.

One thing that might change my mind is if Moe ever made any reference to having worked with John Bunny on Film!  As Mr. Bunny was considered to be the first cinematic star (He was also the first to be the cover story of a major magazine directly as a result of his death, which occurred in 1915!), I highly doubt that Moe wouldn't have referenced this, at some point!

As a child actor, Moe worked at Vitagraph and did indeed work with John Bunny at least once.  This surviving film is not one of those times.

LITTLE NEMO (1911) is not a new discovery, as some are claiming on FB group pages.  It's one of the few Vitagraph comedies that survived the decades, and it circulated for many years in deteriorated condition.  It was restored in the early 2000s (or earlier), and elected to the Library of Congress' National Film Registry in 2009. 

Film experts, especially Vitagraph historian and John Bunny documentary producer Tony Susnick who has spent years researching all extant Vitagraph documentation, have indicated it is not Moe Howard.  And of course there is the obvious evidence that the boy in the film has little-to-zero resemblence to Moe.

Between a bogus IMDb credit submitted by person 'unknown,' Amazon extracting/compounding bad IMDb data for DVD reseller listings, and uninformed fan comments at Youtube and similar video-hosting sites... the misinformation spreads.

Stooges DVD/VHS/Home Video / Re: 1911 Moe appearance
« on: March 20, 2016, 09:00:17 AM »

Supposedly the boy with the duster in this scene from 1911's "Little Nemo" is none other than Moe Howard.  I myself have doubts, but if this indeed Moe than it can be added to the database for ol' Moses.

More information, if not confirmation, is needed before it will be added to the Filmography.

It is highly questionable at this point.  It does not resemble Moe much, even at that age.  The person posting it across FB pages earlier today is relying on an IMDb credit... IMDb is often problematic, with no audit-trail for submitted information.

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