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The Outlaws IS Coming! (1965)
« on: January 27, 2017, 12:46:21 AM »
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          .....and we have come to the end.  THE OUTLAWS IS COMING! will go down as the last film ever made by The Three Stooges at Columbia, and the last one I'll review.  A thirty one year run at a studio with a few small interruptions, quite an amazing and fascinating body of work, even the bad stuff, in its own weird way.  After this, there'd be a cartoon series and KOOK'S TOUR, the latter being a bunch of footage edited together haphazardly and after Larry's stroke - really an incomplete project.  THE OUTLAWS IS COMING!, to my mind, is the last Stooge film proper.

          So, how is their Columbia swan song?  Pretty mediocre overall, sad to say, but mediocre Stooges is better than no Stooges to this Stooge fan.  I will say, there was never a point in the film where I was bored it never really blown away either, though entertained.  The opening Stooge scene where they put too much powder on top to take the picture is one entertaining scene, kind of a play on they all put the yeast in from BEER BARREL POLECATS.  Kind of got a kick that the skunk is named Elvis.  Throw in the two Beatles references, namely the Japanese Beatle and the fact girls swoon over Johnny RINGO, and this is as deep in the rock 'n roll era the Stooges would get.  I wonder what they would have thought of G.G. Allin?  [pie]. The scene where Moe gets glued to the chair had great potential, I just thought it was a shame they cut, right in the middle of it, to a scene involving Annie saving Ken Cabot.  It really destroyed the rhythm, to me.  Speaking of Ken Cabot, he's played by Adam "Batman" West.  Without this history, West would seem bland.  Knowing this guy would be Batman a year later, West's trademark stilted delivery seems appropriately camp.

          One big draw of this film back in the day was the fact so many of the people who introduced Stooge films to kids on local channels showed up as outlaws who bizarrely reformed into "law and order" lovers.  It may have come across as cute at the time, and while I respect the history, being born almost 15 years after this was released, these people don't have the same appeal to me as baby boomers.  I mean that as no disrespect, just an observation this film was very clearly made for a certain audience of a certain age at a certain time.  Lots of Stooge films, even classics, have references of their time, so this would be fine if the roles of the local TV hosts were actually funny, but the whole gun fight comes across as very cartoonish to me, and the whole reform angle is extremely unbelievable and hokey. 

          Derita actually comes across OK in this one when he's wearing more than a bra (I won't mention that scene again), mainly because he is not recycling old Curly gags this time, basically just being himself.  I will admit I've warmed up to Derita a little, even though as a comic, he's still not in the same league as his predecessors, Besser included.  Moe and Larry, well, they're just going through the motions at this point; but it's nice to see the give it one final run.  The story itself is nothing special, a typical western yarn.  I'll give props to Emil Sitka for playing three roles here!  The Stooges Columbia story itself basically ends with recycyed gags from the past (meat grinder machine gun, the Calvary never being late in motion picture history, and another unnecessary gratuitous pie throw at the bad guys), and with that, I'm signing off.

          I want to thank every one of you who have participated in these reviews for the past almost four years, especially you regulars.  It has been one Hell of a journey.  I admit some weeks I was more inspired than others, no doubt feeling most inspired when the Stooges were, during the late thirties and early forties run of classics.  You guys who have been doing this every week with me rock, and I thank you from the bottom of my heart.

    6/10


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    Re: The Outlaws IS Coming! (1965)
    « Reply #1 on: January 27, 2017, 03:52:19 AM »
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  • Hats off to Metaldams--what a fantastic run. And I've said this before, I'm a fan who has never tried to watch the stooges in chronological order--knowing that sooner or later--the back of Joe Palma's head and Joe Besser would plague my viewing habits. So, another tip of the cap to you Doug, for this great idea of the weekly episode discussions.

    All that out of the way--like I said last week--it's too bad "Daze" couldn't have been the boys last film; for me that would have been a proper sendoff. We've all had discussions in the past about "bad" stooge westerns--but, for the most part--those things generally ran only 16 or 17 minutes. Now, we have what from what I remember is a 90 minute feature to slog through--and, possibly--Norman Maurer trying to be a little to cute and clever with all the inside jokes, plus Derita's rather tedious buffalo horn or whatever the hell they called it.

    Probably the least satisying stooge feature outside of the Snow White epic fail, but not horrible either.

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    Re: The Outlaws IS Coming! (1965)
    « Reply #2 on: January 27, 2017, 01:14:40 PM »
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  • Yes, kudos to Metaldams, well-named since he's been an iron man.
         I thought Outlaws was much better than Daze.  The pace was faster, Derita was amusing and less obese, excepting that one cleavage shot that none of us will ever be able to unsee, and I thought the ending where they rode off into the sunset which turned into a downpour was a great finish.  I can't even remember how Daze finished.  That it truly was the finish to their cinematic career is poignant in retrospect.
         This one has a bunch of contemporary references that were good cheap laughs at the time but are now obscure.  The Japanese Beatle is one, and when Harold Brauer as the bartender turns to the camera and talks with a lot of the words coo-cooed out, that was a take off of a commercial that was ubiquitous at the time wherein they coo-cooed out the name of rival products that the endorser had tried and not liked.  Razors come to mind, but it might have been beer.  It was only 52 years ago, who knows.
         I don't know how kids in other cities reacted, but in Boston it was huge that our guy Major Mudd ( Ed T McDonnell ) , who played Bat Masterson, was in the movie.  He of course hosted the after-school stooges show, and was a pretty funny guy.  Also died very young, if we're talking about the high number of short-lived stooge supporting players.
         The glue-in-the-chair sequence was a good try, even though they were, of course, too old.  I shudder to think what it would have been like had Ed Bernds not been there to direct it.  This is one of those scenes where Moe starts screaming early and thus throws off the whole pace.  Nice to see that Adam West was always that bad an actor.
         Take it all around, I enjoyed this one and find it a nice finish to a great Hollywood story.

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    Re: The Outlaws IS Coming! (1965)
    « Reply #3 on: January 27, 2017, 04:41:35 PM »
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  • Major Mudd is in this movie! I might have to buy this one. Although I watched Major Mudd religiously after school, I was never aware that he was in a Stooge's movie. Major Mudd was the cool alternative to the mainstream kiddie hosts that populated the other local stations at the time. He was, as Cosmo Kramer would say, "a little out there." Rumor had it that mental illness cut short his career. He dressed like an astronaut, so it made sense that his signature tagline was: I'll be blasting you.

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    Re: The Outlaws IS Coming! (1965)
    « Reply #4 on: January 27, 2017, 09:17:46 PM »
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  • That was Major Mudd, all right.  All the guest star bad guys were the guys all across the country who hosted the after-school stooge shows.  Nice to know someone else remembers.  His career ( and life ) were cut short by diabetes, not mental illness.

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    Re: The Outlaws IS Coming! (1965)
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  • Metaldams rules!!!! Thank you so much, sir for reviewing these shorts/features.  They have been very entertaining, and I loved every review, every insight.  It's been a blast sir. Thank you for your time!!!

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    Re: The Outlaws IS Coming! (1965)
    « Reply #6 on: January 29, 2017, 04:58:39 PM »
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  • Thanks for this incredible journey, metaldams.
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    Re: The Outlaws IS Coming! (1965)
    « Reply #7 on: January 29, 2017, 05:37:32 PM »
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  • Hey guys, you're all welcome. 

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    Re: The Outlaws IS Coming! (1965)
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  • One last question ( or bunch of questions ):
         I have always wondered why this was the last feature.  Did this lose money?  Did Daze lose money?  I would be astounded if Orbit lost money, and I know Hercules was a smash.  Did they have a four-picture deal and Columbia didn't renew the option ( if there was an option ) because of the stooge's age, which, given some of Ed Bernds's comments, was perfectly plausible? 
         Here's my conundrum:  As far as I can follow: Have Rocket, Hercules, Orbit, Daze, and Outlaws, all made money.  That statement must, somehow, be wrong.  Something must have lost money somewhere in there to have messed up that delicious little Columbia money machine.  Which one?  Or did each one from Hercules  ( which we know was huge ) on, make a slimmer and slimmer profit until Columbia lost interest?  That would be my guess, but I'm sure that  somebody else on this site ( and I know we have some on here with brains like Napoleon ) who is an expert in profit and loss, would know about this:  Why is Outlaws their last feature?

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    Re: The Outlaws IS Coming! (1965)
    « Reply #9 on: January 30, 2017, 04:43:45 AM »
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  • Per Wikipedia:
    Have Rocket: $2,120,000 profits
    Snow White: $3,500,000 budget, profit not shown
    Hercules: $1,580,000 profits
    Orbit: $1,500,000 box office, profits unknown
    Daze: $1,000,000 box office, profits unknown
    Outlaws: $1,000,000 box office, profits unknown
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    Re: The Outlaws IS Coming! (1965)
    « Reply #10 on: January 30, 2017, 09:33:31 AM »
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  • Hmmmm... tough to make any decent profit with a B.O. of only 1M.  I guess they just faded away.

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    Re: The Outlaws IS Coming! (1965)
    « Reply #11 on: February 02, 2017, 07:38:57 PM »
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  • Did they have a four-picture deal and Columbia didn't renew the option ( if there was an option ) because of the stooge's age, which, given some of Ed Bernds's comments, was perfectly plausible?
    Just curious - what comments did  Ed Bernds make about their age?

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    « Reply #12 on: February 02, 2017, 08:47:03 PM »
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  • He said they had lost their comic timing due to age and they were harder to direct because of it.

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