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Offline Woe-ee-Woe-Woe80

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Re: Hoofs and Goofs (1957)
« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2017, 08:47:19 PM »
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  • A very mediocre Stooge short that I was never fond of, fortunately most of the Joe Besser shorts would get better after this one, I do admit I do find most of the Joe Besser shorts to be a huge breath of fresh air compared to the late Shemp rehash shorts and the fake Shemp shorts, sadly this stooge short isn't one of them, I rank this as one of my least favorite Besser shorts, I do like the moments where Moe was pretending to neigh like a horse and Larry telling Moe to ask him nice followed by a slap.

    Overall I give this short a 3/10, at least it's not as bad as "Horsing Around", "Sweet And Hot", "Triple Crossed" and "Sappy Bullfighters", luckily the next three Besser shorts released after this would be a lot better.

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    Re: Hoofs and Goofs (1957)
    « Reply #26 on: February 05, 2018, 03:09:57 PM »
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  • I have to take the word of you better-informed viewers that Joe Besser was good in something. I only know him from Stooge shorts like this one that he so foully stank up. Moe, Larry, Curly, and Shemp may have been frequently immature in their behavior, but it was the immaturity of rowdy boys, not of whiny little sissies.

    The only observation that I have to add about this short is that it is amusing to see that when Tony, the Wonder Horse is in profile, somebody is always standing just forward of the hind legs, to maintain the illusion that "Birdie" is a mare.

    I thought she sounded like Christine McIntyre. In any case, not a plausible she-Stooge voice.
    Having Joe Besser as a third stooge is a bit like the extremely nerdy Eugene replacing Kenickie or Doody in GREASE (1978), had that bizarre scenario ever taken place.  Come to think of it, some of their antics with Putzie in that film were compared to The Three Stooges at the time, as I recall! 

    The concealment of Tony's "manhood" was, no doubt, also necessary to satisfy the Board of Censors, which was still in force (Albeit, probably in a somewhat watered down state by 1956-57!) at the time.

    I really didn't pick up on who might have voiced Birdie.  As Christine McIntyre had completely retired from film and TV work by the time HOOFS AD GOOFS was made, I'd say it's safe to rule her out as a possibility for having provided Birdie's voice.

    I agree that Moe's not being able to retaliate for Joe's sissified fisticuffs was a rather jarring moment, not to mention Joe's sissified fisticuffs themselves, which I've seen play far better in other comedic situations, such as those with Lou Costello. 

    Audio looping seemed to be more common in the shorts by this time.  In this short, I noticed an instance in which Larry's voice can be heard, even though Larry's lips don't move one iota!  It's a rather painfully easy spot, at that!

    I do agree that Moe's bit with Benny Rubin was pretty much HOOFS AND GOOFS' highlight!  This short gets 4/10 from me.

    CHEERS!  [3stooges]



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    Re: Hoofs and Goofs (1957)
    « Reply #27 on: February 05, 2018, 11:00:23 PM »
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  • One of the best things about Stinky's interactions with Costello is that they really whammed on each other.  The overreactions to the punches and pinches were exaggerated, of course, but there was none of the itty-bitty poking that Joe practiced on Moe.  If Joe had done the heavy hitting on the other two stooges that Stinky had done on Costello, and even maybe ramped it up to an even more out-of-control, stooge-world level than in A & C, then we might have had something.

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    Re: Hoofs and Goofs (1957)
    « Reply #28 on: February 05, 2018, 11:11:11 PM »
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  • And Hey, am I wrong or have I just been promoted to Numbskull?

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    Re: Hoofs and Goofs (1957)
    « Reply #29 on: February 09, 2018, 08:07:03 PM »
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  • One of the best things about Stinky's interactions with Costello is that they really whammed on each other.  The overreactions to the punches and pinches were exaggerated, of course, but there was none of the itty-bitty poking that Joe practiced on Moe.  If Joe had done the heavy hitting on the other two stooges that Stinky had done on Costello, and even maybe ramped it up to an even more out-of-control, stooge-world level than in A & C, then we might have had something.

    Another thing I’ve always wondered is if the Stooges during this period would have been better if there was more self-referential humor towards Besser’s annoyances. AFRICA SCREAMS, in addition to giving Besser funny material to work with, also has self-referential humor at Besser’s expense. Costello imitates Besser a couple times throughout the film and there’s a moment in particular that I really like between Shemp and Joe. When they first arrive in Africa, Shemp has to tie the boat to the dock, but because he’s nearsighted he accidentally ties it to Besser’s leg. Besser understandably gets mad about this and yells at him. When Besser leaves, Shemp mutters, “Always complainin’.” I feel like more moments like this from Moe and Larry may have made the Besser era more tolerable at least.