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Bacon Grabbers (1929) - Laurel and Hardy
« on: June 28, 2015, 06:18:14 PM »
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  • http://www.lordheath.com/index.php?p=1_170_Bacon-Grabbers
    http://www.laurelandhardycentral.com/bacon.html
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0019670/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OhHfAnZVwFU

    Watch BACON GRABBERS in the link above (no soundtrack in this link, though one does appear on DVD)



          BACON GRABBERS is a perfectly acceptable comedy by average standards and has some memorable bits.  For a Laurel and Hardy comedy, however, I feel like they have done better.  By the time BACON GRABBERS was made, they knew they were about to make the transition to sound, so the silent market was becoming less of a priority at this point.  Sure enough, we only have one more silent short to go after this, and several talkies were actually released before this short as a higher priority, even though BACON GRABBERS was filmed first.

           I don't really have too much to say about this one.  The best stuff is the beginning and the end, while the middle plays off as enjoyable, but lacking any peaks.  The first few minutes are gold.  Stan and Ollie milk a simple task of taking a summons paper out of an office for all it's worth.  It's really quite awesome.  They find every combination of misplacing a hat, misplacing a paper, forgetting they are to find the address on the paper,  and leaving through the wrong door.  Then when they finally do get outside, they have trouble at first both being on the right side of the door and starting the car.  I am a big fan of taking simple situations and coming up with a quick variety of varied gags revolving around this situation.

          Once they actually get to the house of Edgar Kennedy, this is where I think things slow down a bit.  The variety seems to be lacking here to deliver the paper, it just seems like one big chase to me.  Things don't really pick up for me until the end, when we get that wonderful sight gag of Ollie balancing a ladder with Stan on it on his stomach trying to get Stan through a window, and Edgar Kennedy is through the window thwarting Stan off with a feather duster.  The ending itself, has a nice twist which I won't give away, but the wife is again played by a young and pre fame Jean Harlow, about a week before her 18th birthday.

          Nothing bad or offensive about this film, I just get the feeling they could have done better in parts.  One or two more memorable moments in the middle and I rate this higher.  A minor effort, but then again, Stan and Ollie, along with Hollywood in general, were about to make a major transition, and everyone involved in this film knew it.

    7.5/10

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    Re: Bacon Grabbers (1929)
    « Reply #1 on: June 28, 2015, 06:54:14 PM »
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  • I agree with your assessment about the beginning and the end with Stan and Ollie milking the misplacement gag for all its worth.  Any time they're in a car, you know it's going to be awesome, and it was here.  They rear end a car, smash their radiator, and fix it by dropping a handkerchief in the radiator.

    The middle section is slow and almost pathetic.  In short, Edgar Kennedy is so desperate to keep a RADIO, although still not a cheap investment in those days, by going so far as attempting to MURDER Stan and Ollie.  Not their best stuff for sure here, and we're about a third of the way through this.  The only good scene was the ladder bit, particularly Ollie's perseverance in spite of a dog attack, a misbalancing Stan, and a violent Edgar Kennedy.  Unfortunately, this about half, if not more, of the short, which heavily affects my rating of this film.

    The ending was a perfect outcome, and it was nice to see them "win" for once.

    7/10
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    Re: Bacon Grabbers (1929)
    « Reply #2 on: June 28, 2015, 06:55:14 PM »
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  • I like the silents ( I haven't seen them all ) with the exceptions of Two Tars and Big Business, which I love to the extent that they have made life worth living, but I'm really looking forward to the talkies.  I go back far enough ( here I go again talking about how old I am )  that I remember the L&H talkies being replaced on the TV station in Boston by the Three Stooges ( it was WNAC, if anyone cares ), at least in the early morning hours ( L&H got moved to mid-afternoon, IIRC ), so I was crazy about L&H before I ever saw the stooges.  This was all in the late fifties, so I was maybe six.  My point ( and I do have one ) is that they only ran the L&H talkies, never a silent, so that's where my affection lies.  Perfect Day and Men O'War are imprinted on my limbic system as deeply as Women Haters and In The Sweet Pie And Pie.
         In other words, I can hardly wait.

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    Re: Bacon Grabbers (1929)
    « Reply #3 on: June 28, 2015, 06:59:04 PM »
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  • And oh, yes, Jean Harlow married to Edgar Kennedy, in Edgar's dreams.

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    Re: Bacon Grabbers (1929)
    « Reply #4 on: June 28, 2015, 07:04:00 PM »
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  • And oh, yes, Jean Harlow married to Edgar Kennedy, in Edgar's dreams.

    He's also married to Thelma Todd in two weeks.  Hi diddly dee, an actor's life for me!

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    Re: Bacon Grabbers (1929)
    « Reply #5 on: June 28, 2015, 07:04:47 PM »
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  • I like the silents ( I haven't seen them all ) with the exceptions of Two Tars and Big Business, which I love to the extent that they have made life worth living, but I'm really looking forward to the talkies.  I go back far enough ( here I go again talking about how old I am )  that I remember the L&H talkies being replaced on the TV station in Boston by the Three Stooges ( it was WNAC, if anyone cares ), at least in the early morning hours ( L&H got moved to mid-afternoon, IIRC ), so I was crazy about L&H before I ever saw the stooges.  This was all in the late fifties, so I was maybe six.  My point ( and I do have one ) is that they only ran the L&H talkies, never a silent, so that's where my affection lies.  Perfect Day and Men O'War are imprinted on my limbic system as deeply as Women Haters and In The Sweet Pie And Pie.
         In other words, I can hardly wait.

    I love having a person who can share such deep insights as a result of personal experience.  You provide the wisdom, and I provide the youth.  The rest of you are all... there... except our wonderful host metaldams!

    He's also married to Thelma Todd in two weeks.  Hi diddly dee, an actor's life for me!

    Whooee!
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    Re: Bacon Grabbers (1929)
    « Reply #6 on: June 28, 2015, 07:26:20 PM »
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  • There's only one Laurel and Hardy film that I have strong childhood memories of, and that would be BABES IN TOYLAND.  I watched it during the holidays every year at my grandmother's condo when I was a kid back in the 80's.  I want to say WPIX 11 out of New York was the channel (living in Connecticut at the time, I got New York and Boston channels).  Great movie, especially for kids, but not a great Laurel and Hardy film.  My biggest memories were more the toy soldiers marching off at the end and the beast dudes getting darts shot on their butts than any Stan and Ollie routine.  More poignant now since my grandmother died four years ago and ironically enough, was born in 1929, the era we're discussing.  Laurel and Hardy were actually in the middle of filming THE HOOSE-GOW when she was born.

    I think I saw maybe a few Stan and Ollie films as a kid, but not very often.  The Three Stooges by far were on TV more often.  Laurel and Hardy was something I rekindled with thanks to the Internet when I was in my twenties, and I had to have the help of friends in getting their films.  Until a few years ago, thanks to Hallmark, their films were hard to find in the U.S.  That DVD set coming out was really a huge event.

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    Re: Bacon Grabbers (1929)
    « Reply #7 on: June 28, 2015, 07:30:21 PM »
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  • I love having a person who can share such deep insights as a result of personal experience.  You provide the wisdom, and I provide the youth.  The rest of you are all... there... except our wonderful host metaldams!

    Whooee!

    I'm hoping a few more people will join in once the talkies start since those are more available.

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    Re: Bacon Grabbers (1929)
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  • There's only one Laurel and Hardy film that I have strong childhood memories of, and that would be BABES IN TOYLAND.  I watched it during the holidays every year at my grandmother's condo when I was a kid back in the 80's.  I want to say WPIX 11 out of New York was the channel (living in Connecticut at the time, I got New York and Boston channels).  Great movie, especially for kids, but not a great Laurel and Hardy film.  My biggest memories were more the toy soldiers marching off at the end and the beast dudes getting darts shot on their butts than any Stan and Ollie routine.  More poignant now since my grandmother died four years ago and ironically enough, was born in 1929, the era we're discussing.  Laurel and Hardy were actually in the middle of filming THE HOOSE-GOW when she was born.

    I think I saw maybe a few Stan and Ollie films as a kid, but not very often.  The Three Stooges by far were on TV more often.  Laurel and Hardy was something I rekindled with thanks to the Internet when I was in my twenties, and I had to have the help of friends in getting their films.  Until a few years ago, thanks to Hallmark, their films were hard to find in the U.S.  That DVD set coming out was really a huge event.

    Even as young one, it was only the Stooges, Mister Ed, and I Love Lucy.  Any others my parents watched were off limits.  As I got older they introduced me to others, but not any other short aubjects.

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    Re: Bacon Grabbers (1929) - Laurel and Hardy
    « Reply #9 on: June 28, 2015, 09:17:15 PM »
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  • Oddly enough, I have seen maybe thirty seconds of Babes In Toyland.  I'm really glad that it was a tradition around the NYC area, but I was never a part of it.

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    Re: Bacon Grabbers (1929) - Laurel and Hardy
    « Reply #10 on: June 28, 2015, 09:19:27 PM »
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  • And, Paul Pain, don't give me too much credit.  I'm old, not wise.

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    Re: Bacon Grabbers (1929) - Laurel and Hardy
    « Reply #11 on: June 29, 2015, 05:24:08 PM »
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  • And, Paul Pain, don't give me too much credit.  I'm old, not wise.

    But you bring valuable experience to the table that helps young folks like me to appreciate these shorts even more than we already do.
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    Re: Bacon Grabbers (1929) - Laurel and Hardy
    « Reply #12 on: June 29, 2015, 07:39:25 PM »
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  • Hey guys, just for fun, the screen wives of Edgar Kennedy!  Both gorgeous and gone way too soon.  Enjoy.  Oh, and seriously, born in 1911, you gotta wonder what a younger Christine McIntyre would have been like in an early talkie Laurel and Hardy.



    Thelma Todd



    Jean Harlow

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    Re: Bacon Grabbers (1929) - Laurel and Hardy
    « Reply #13 on: June 29, 2015, 09:24:14 PM »
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  • This one was, in fact, the last L&H appearance for Jean Harlow.

    By looks and based on FROM SOUP TO NUTS, would you agree Anita Garvin is like the L&H version of Symona?
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    Re: Bacon Grabbers (1929) - Laurel and Hardy
    « Reply #14 on: June 29, 2015, 10:11:27 PM »
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  • This one was, in fact, the last L&H appearance for Jean Harlow.

    By looks and based on FROM SOUP TO NUTS, would you agree Anita Garvin is like the L&H version of Symona?

    You know, I can kind of see a late 20's/early 30's version of Anita Garvin passing as the daughter of an early 40's Symona.  Never thought of that before.

    But to answer your question, the age difference makes me say no.  Anita with Laurel and Hardy was young while Symona with the Stooges was middle aged, so it was a different vibe. 

    Here's Symona when she was younger in her early thirties.



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    Re: Bacon Grabbers (1929) - Laurel and Hardy
    « Reply #15 on: June 30, 2015, 09:38:58 AM »
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  • You know, I can kind of see a late 20's/early 30's version of Anita Garvin passing as the daughter of an early 40's Symona.  Never thought of that before.

    But to answer your question, the age difference makes me say no.  Anita with Laurel and Hardy was young while Symona with the Stooges was middle aged, so it was a different vibe. 

    Here's Symona when she was younger in her early thirties.



    I was thinking more because of the similarities in appearance and style.
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    Re: Bacon Grabbers (1929) - Laurel and Hardy
    « Reply #16 on: July 01, 2015, 08:04:06 PM »
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  • I was thinking more because of the similarities in appearance and style.

    I could see physical similarities for sure, hence the mother/daughter comparison.  You made a good observation I never thought of before.

    The age difference definitely makes a difference in the kind of roles they can play, though.  In FROM SOUP TO NUTS, Anita Garvin tries to be a society woman but fails miserably, which is perfect for a woman in her early twenties.  Symona Boniface, when she plays such roles, actually pulls it of, being in her 40's and 50's.  The age really makes a difference.

    Laurel and Hardy really don't have a Symona Boniface type I can think of, minus the previously mentioned physical similarities with Anita Garvin.  The Marx Brothers, on the other hand, have Margaret Dumont, a more ham fisted version of Symona Boniface. 

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    Re: Bacon Grabbers (1929) - Laurel and Hardy
    « Reply #17 on: July 02, 2015, 08:57:41 AM »
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  • The way Hal Roach works with some of these, I am surprised that this didn't end with Stan and Ollie driving off laughing and into a mud puddle in front of Edgar Kennedy, who in turn gets the last laugh.
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    Re: Bacon Grabbers (1929) - Laurel and Hardy
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  • Well, I’m going to have to disagree on this short, because I really liked it. Strangely, my problem with this short is the beginning. Not that it’s awful, but the stuff with Laurel, Hardy, and the paper in the office just comes across as kind of slow and tedious to me. The bit with the car is funny enough, even if it’s not as good as in PERFECT DAY.

    When it gets to Edgar Kennedy’s house, I actually found it to be very funny. There’s a lot of energy from the three as Laurel and Hardy attempt to give Kennedy the paper and Kennedy attempts to escape. One thing I love is when they try to use the supposedly tough dog to their advantage, only for the dog to run away from a fake. It ends in a pretty funny line from Hardy.

    Even after they give Kennedy the paper, though, they still have to get the radio from him. They steal a ladder from someone, resulting in him falling off the building he’s working on, and Laurel and Hardy have their own struggles with the ladder, which I really like. It’s done for just the right amount of time so that it doesn’t get stale. By this point, Kennedy has gone insane and tries to shoot Laurel and Hardy, building up the intensity. Then, of course, there’s the ending. The radio and the car both getting destroyed make for some funny final sight gags, and Laurel, Hardy, and Kennedy’s reactions also help.

    It’s not a perfect short, but I still really enjoyed it.

    9 out of 10