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Offline Larrys#1

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Re: Woman Haters (1934)
« Reply #25 on: December 30, 2013, 03:20:24 PM »
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  • This is not all that great of an episode. The beginning and ending parts at the woman hater's club was pretty funny, but other than that, this episode is bore to sit through. I'd prefer the stooges not mix comedy with musical.

    3/10

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    « Reply #26 on: December 31, 2013, 11:20:07 AM »
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  • I agree with Liz!! Though I guess our boys had to start somewhere....

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    Re: Woman Haters (1934)
    « Reply #27 on: January 25, 2014, 03:19:57 PM »
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  • According to the book on Columbia short subjects, the Stooges were billed as "Howard, Fine & Howard" up until Punch Drunks.   The opening credits for Woman Haters labels them as the Three Stooges.  Were the original titles of this short replaced once it was released to TV audiences?

    Just curious....

    I believe so, JWF. Looking carefully at the title card, I noticed the "Three Stooges" screen is sped up. I assume this was made for some later video release or television master as I see no splice marks. It would not make sense either to use the Three Stooges billing as the short was originally marketed as "A Musical Novelty." Has this short been run on television before the 1990s Cable TV phenomenon (where major studios presented haphazardly restored versions of films to replace years of local stations airing worn out 16mm reduction prints)? It would be interesting to find an older 16mm print of this short.

    This short, to me is a great introduction to the Stooges without Ted Healy. Keep in mind, that the Healy MGM shorts were mostly musicals, and hardly featured the comedic trio! This Musical Novelty is a revelation of sorts where the Stooges play the main roles and do an amazing job for the first film of its kind. Even in the first scene, there is total chaos as the Stooges are introduced to the Woman Haters club. The scenes on the train are side splitting hilarious, Marjorie White could have been a great fourth stooge if only circumstances were different. The ending with the Stooges as old men is to die for! The only thing that I thought was weird was, since this was the first short, the characters referred to each other with different names. Of course, I know now, that the names were not used until Punch Drunks. Even as a kid, despite not knowing the history, I knew that there was something special about this short and it was still funny regardless!



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    Re: Woman Haters (1934)
    « Reply #28 on: February 02, 2014, 05:21:48 PM »
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  • For me, this short is sore-lacking in many ways, especially with the bad lines and comedy.  However, the execution was perfect and it was the only time the boys got to be away from their stereotypical images.
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    Re: Woman Haters (1934)
    « Reply #29 on: April 28, 2014, 07:39:12 PM »
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  • Starting my first critical review of a Stooge short, I only find it appropriate to start with the first subject to be issued.

    After seeing a fair bunch of the other shorts introduced via AMC and the Family Channel, this is one I recall watching about 10-12 years ago... and I remember not being a big fan with the first watch. Now that I've grown older and obtaining the full box set, I've been able to fully analyze both my positive and negative factors of "Women Haters." With this one, I've seen a split opinion with the fanbase, you either love it or hate it! Now with me...

    Personal highlights:
    - The opening 3 1/2 minutes and the last scene. Nice to see Bud Jamison getting the opening lead of a the very first Stooge short, whereas I would have expected our favorite 3 morons. Also, I think the opening scene with the Stooges (albeit not named Moe, Larry, and Curly, but with different names, the only time this has been done I believe) immediately grasps what was to be their slapstick throughout not only this first short subject but the remaining 189 shorts and the next 24 years.
    - The now considered un-P.C theme of the short. Whenever the Stooges focused around these types of issues, it always seemed to work.
    - It's not often you see the middle Stooge getting a lead part in the plot, and this makes the short a bit more interesting
    However... the technical elements presented in the short make this fall flat for me.

    Low points:
    - The rhyming. Good god, I remember seeing this for the first time and felt -annoyed- with the rhyming. It got old way too fast and it still irritates me.
    - The musical numbers. Again, I saw this when I was about 10 and now this makes me consider that this would "work" (that is, making it more sense if I was a fan of...) if this was a feature film and Ted Healy was part of the group, as this format was abandoned and never returned.

    Overall conclusion: If there was less slapstick and less chemistry between the Stooges, this short for me would be forgettable. I'll have to admit, the 2007 remaster looks and sounds splendid compared to the TV prints.

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    Re: Woman Haters (1934)
    « Reply #30 on: April 28, 2014, 09:29:18 PM »
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  • Starting my first critical review of a Stooge short, I only find it appropriate to start with the first subject to be issued.

    After seeing a fair bunch of the other shorts introduced via AMC and the Family Channel, this is one I recall watching about 10-12 years ago... and I remember not being a big fan with the first watch. Now that I've grown older and obtaining the full box set, I've been able to fully analyze both my positive and negative factors of "Women Haters." With this one, I've seen a split opinion with the fanbase, you either love it or hate it! Now with me...

    Personal highlights:
    - The opening 3 1/2 minutes and the last scene. Nice to see Bud Jamison getting the opening lead of a the very first Stooge short, whereas I would have expected our favorite 3 morons. Also, I think the opening scene with the Stooges (albeit not named Moe, Larry, and Curly, but with different names, the only time this has been done I believe) immediately grasps what was to be their slapstick throughout not only this first short subject but the remaining 189 shorts and the next 24 years.
    - The now considered un-P.C theme of the short. Whenever the Stooges focused around these types of issues, it always seemed to work.
    - It's not often you see the middle Stooge getting a lead part in the plot, and this makes the short a bit more interesting
    However... the technical elements presented in the short make this fall flat for me.

    Low points:
    - The rhyming. Good god, I remember seeing this for the first time and felt -annoyed- with the rhyming. It got old way too fast and it still irritates me.
    - The musical numbers. Again, I saw this when I was about 10 and now this makes me consider that this would "work" (that is, making it more sense if I was a fan of...) if this was a feature film and Ted Healy was part of the group, as this format was abandoned and never returned.

    Overall conclusion: If there was less slapstick and less chemistry between the Stooges, this short for me would be forgettable. I'll have to admit, the 2007 remaster looks and sounds splendid compared to the TV prints.

    Nice first review and post.  Welcome aboard.

    You mention the chemistry between the Stooges.  Columbia actually started their shorts department making musical comedies like these, and I saw one of them.  Let's just say a musical rhyming short like this without The Three Stooges is as unwatchable as it sounds to people like me who generally don't like old musicals.

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    Re: Woman Haters (1934)
    « Reply #31 on: November 10, 2016, 07:51:03 PM »
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  • The Three Stooges are arguably one of the most iconic comedy teams in the history of pop culture. Their eye-pokes, slaps, and nyuk-nyuk-nyuk's resonate across the globe. Training for 12 years leading up to this, this was supposed to be the Stooges' big break. They were finally able to make movies at one of the major movie studios! They had been honing their craft, perfecting every little routine, and these 19 minutes came out of it. Is it good? Well....
     
    There are definitely many flaws with this short film, but before I dive into that, let me tell you what the plot is. The Stooges take an oath for a Woman Haters' club. However, the next day, Larry marries a girl (Marjorie White). Soon, Moe and Curly confront him about this and Larry bad-mouths the girl to them. Marjorie overhears. Soon, she uses all three of the Stooges until they all basically give up on women as a whole and decide to rejoin the Woman Haters' club.

    One major problem with this is the way that this film is done. It is done entirely in rhyme. In the first few minutes, the rhyming works, but towards the last final minutes, the rhyming starts to get a bit annoying. Also, The Three Stooges usually go at a breakneck pace but for this they had to go a bit slower than usual. The pacing is very odd at some points with the Stooges' words not really matching up with the music. Marjorie White is definitely a pro at this odd technique, however.

    Speaking of Marjorie White, there's not many supporting players in here besides Marjorie. Bud Jamison is in this film as the head of the Woman Haters' club, but he isn't given his full potential. However, he does get to slap and eye-poke all three Stooges for the first time in a Columbia short, which is pretty awesome. Marjorie White was definitely a talented actress. It's a shame that she died a little while after making this short. She definitely wasn't able to release her full potential, and I could see many Columbia/Three Stooges shorts with her as a supporting player.

    I really like how the main Stooge featured in this short is Larry. Larry definitely shines throughout this movie, with his hilarious reactions coming into place and his characteristics finally being put to good use. Speaking of characteristics, Moe, Larry and Curly's characteristics are formed, but they still need some developing. I feel like whenever they do use a classic woo-woo-woo or something like that, it feels out of place. But, that's something that they will later perfect and hone.

    But, anyways, it seems like this film did successful enough that Columbia gave the Stooges another film to work on where they were basically given free control. Thank goodness for that. Next time I review a short, it will be a better short, no doubt, but as for this one, I'll give it a solid 6.5 out of 10 pokes. There are definitely things to improve on that the Stooges later will, but this short film is entertaining as whole because of its main character being Larry and the characteristics of the Stooges coming into full play.

    6/10
     

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    Re: Woman Haters (1934)
    « Reply #32 on: June 04, 2017, 10:36:11 AM »
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    It's the Flyers' fault for having played 4 consecutive Sunday nights at the end of the regular season, preempting my normal Stooge-watching time -- especially the way they played this season.    [cry]

    Annie How, I began the cycle again yesterday (always going in order of volumes 1-5-2-6-3-7-4-8 to avoid watching all of one third Stooge at a time), and my opinion has not changed, this being my least-favorite Curly short.  The rhyming wasn't even used in everything, and the music -- well, even Batman did not play music at all times in that TV show.

    My favorite parts were Curly's woo-ing when Moe bit his toe, and Larry's rhyme:
    "Rain nor shine nor rain, I'll meet yez at the train, and now I'll tell the lady that I'll never see her again," after which the Stooges crash their beer mugs.

    Also, when Curly asked Moe what day it was, Moe looked at his right wrist.  I didn't know they had calendar watches in 1934!