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If a remake beats an original, it will overtake the original's spot in the tourney.  Vote away!

FRIGHT NIGHT VS. FLING IN THE RING
OUT WEST VS. PALS AND GALS
HOLD THAT LION VS. BOOTY AND THE BEAST VS. LOOSE LOOT (only vote one)
BRIDELESS GROOM VS. HUSBANDS BEWARE
SING A SONG OF SIX PANTS VS. RIP SEW AND STITCH
ALL GUMMED UP VS. BUBBLE TROUBLE
SHIVERING SHERLOCKS VS. OF CASH AND HASH
PARDON MY CLUTCH VS. WHAM BAM SLAM
SQUAREHEADS OF THE ROUNDTABLE VS. KNUTZY KNIGHTS
FIDDLERS THREE VS. MUSTY MUSKETEERS
HOT SCOTS VS. SCOTCHED IN SCOTLAND
HEAVENLY DAZE VS. BEDLAM IN PARADISE
I'M A MONKEYS UNCLE VS. STONE AGE ROMEOS
CRIME ON THEIR HANDS VS. HOT ICE
THE GHOST TALKS VS. CREEPS
WHO DONE IT? VS. FOR CRIMIN OUT LOUD
HOKUS POKUS VS. FLAGPOLE JITTERS
FUELIN' AROUND VS. HOT STUFF
MALICE IN THE PALACE VS. RUMPUS IN THE HAREM
VAGABOND LOAFERS VS. SCHEMING SCHEMERS
DUNKED IN THE DEEP VS. COMMOTION ON THE OCEAN
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Re: SHEMP ORIGINAL FOOTAGE VS. SHEMP STOCK FOOTAGE (Preliminary Round)
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2010, 10:11:52 AM »
FRIGHT NIGHT VS. FLING IN THE RING
OUT WEST VS. PALS AND GALS
HOLD THAT LION VS. BOOTY AND THE BEAST VS. LOOSE LOOT (only vote one)
BRIDELESS GROOM VS. HUSBANDS BEWARE
SING A SONG OF SIX PANTS VS. RIP SEW AND STITCH
ALL GUMMED UP VS. BUBBLE TROUBLE
SHIVERING SHERLOCKS VS. OF CASH AND HASH
PARDON MY CLUTCH VS. WHAM BAM SLAM
SQUAREHEADS OF THE ROUNDTABLE VS. KNUTZY KNIGHTS
FIDDLERS THREE VS. MUSTY MUSKETEERS
HOT SCOTS VS. SCOTCHED IN SCOTLAND
HEAVENLY DAZE VS. BEDLAM IN PARADISE
I'M A MONKEYS UNCLE VS. STONE AGE ROMEOS
CRIME ON THEIR HANDS VS. HOT ICE
THE GHOST TALKS VS. CREEPS
WHO DONE IT? VS. FOR CRIMIN OUT LOUD
HOKUS POKUS VS. FLAGPOLE JITTERS
FUELIN' AROUND VS. HOT STUFF
MALICE IN THE PALACE VS. RUMPUS IN THE HAREM
VAGABOND LOAFERS VS. SCHEMING SCHEMERS

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Re: SHEMP ORIGINAL FOOTAGE VS. SHEMP STOCK FOOTAGE (Preliminary Round)
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2010, 10:34:55 AM »
FRIGHT NIGHT
PALS AND GALS
LOOSE LOOT
HUSBANDS BEWARE
SING A SONG OF SIX PANTS
BUBBLE TROUBLE
OF CASH AND HASH
PARDON MY CLUTCH
SQUAREHEADS OF THE ROUNDTABLE
FIDDLERS THREE
SCOTCHED IN SCOTLAND
HEAVENLY DAZE
STONE AGE ROMEOS
CRIME ON THEIR HANDS
THE GHOST TALKS
WHO DONE IT?
HOKUS POKUS
FUELIN' AROUND
MALICE IN THE PALACE
VAGABOND LOAFERS
DUNKED IN THE DEEP

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Re: SHEMP ORIGINAL FOOTAGE VS. SHEMP STOCK FOOTAGE (Preliminary Round)
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2010, 12:17:56 PM »
FRIGHT NIGHT
OUT WEST
HOLD THAT LION
BRIDELESS GROOM
SING A SONG OF SIX PANTS
BUBBLE TROUBLE
SHIVERING SHERLOCKS
PARDON MY CLUTCH
SQUAREHEADS OF THE ROUNDTABLE
FIDDLERS THREE
HOT SCOTS
BEDLAM IN PARADISE
I'M A MONKEYS UNCLE
CRIME ON THEIR HANDS
THE GHOST TALKS
WHO DONE IT?
HOKUS POKUS
FUELIN' AROUND
MALICE IN THE PALACE
VAGABOND LOAFERS
DUNKED IN THE DEEP

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Re: SHEMP ORIGINAL FOOTAGE VS. SHEMP STOCK FOOTAGE (Preliminary Round)
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2010, 02:27:33 PM »
FRIGHT NIGHT
OUT WEST
HOLD THAT LION
SING A SONG OF SIX PANTS
ALL GUMMED UP
OF CASH AND HASH
PARDON MY CLUTCH
SQUAREHEADS OF THE ROUNDTABLE
FIDDLERS THREE
HOT SCOTS
HEAVENLY DAZE
I'M A MONKEYS UNCLE
CRIME ON THEIR HANDS
THE GHOST TALKS
WHO DONE IT?
HOKUS POKUS
FUELIN' AROUND
MALICE IN THE PALACE
VAGABOND LOAFERS
DUNKED IN THE DEEP
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Re: SHEMP ORIGINAL FOOTAGE VS. SHEMP STOCK FOOTAGE (Preliminary Round)
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2010, 02:34:59 PM »
BEDLAM IN PARADISE and CREEPS are the only two stock footage jobs that get my vote (and I really like HEAVENLY DAZE, so a major compliment to Bedlam).  Every other pairing, I vote original.
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Re: SHEMP ORIGINAL FOOTAGE VS. SHEMP STOCK FOOTAGE (Preliminary Round)
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2010, 03:33:33 PM »
FRIGHT NIGHT
OUT WEST
HOLD THAT LION
BRIDELESS GROOM
SING A SONG OF SIX PANTS
ALL GUMMED UP
SHIVERING SHERLOCKS
PARDON MY CLUTCH
SQUAREHEADS OF THE ROUNDTABLE
FIDDLERS THREE
HOT SCOTS
BEDLAM IN PARADISE
I'M A MONKEYS UNCLE
CRIME ON THEIR HANDS
THE GHOST TALKS
WHO DONE IT?
HOKUS POKUS
FUELIN' AROUND
MALICE IN THE PALACE
VAGABOND LOAFERS

Bedlam in Paradise in the only remake I preferred to the original. I mostly loved the whole Devil aspect of this short, though the dancing scene with Shemp in Heaven was just a time filler, and not very funny.

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Re: SHEMP ORIGINAL FOOTAGE VS. SHEMP STOCK FOOTAGE (Preliminary Round)
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2010, 04:48:22 PM »
FRIGHT NIGHT
OUT WEST
HOLD THAT LION
BRIDELESS GROOM
SING A SONG OF SIX PANTS
BUBBLE TROUBLE
SHIVERING SHERLOCKS
PARDON MY CLUTCH
SQUAREHEADS OF THE ROUNDTABLE
FIDDLERS THREE
HOT SCOTS
HEAVENLY DAZE
I'M A MONKEYS UNCLE
CRIME ON THEIR HANDS
CREEPS
WHO DONE IT?
HOKUS POKUS
FUELIN' AROUND
MALICE IN THE PALACE
VAGABOND LOAFERS

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Re: SHEMP ORIGINAL FOOTAGE VS. SHEMP STOCK FOOTAGE (Preliminary Round)
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2010, 04:56:27 PM »
So out of 174 Curly/Shemp shorts this eliminates 21. When you include the one Bessier short it means we still have to get rid of 24 shorts before the tourney starts. That will be interesting to see which ones arent in the tourney. Id say late Curlys like Rhythm and Weep, Three Lone Wolves, and Beer Barrell Polecats can get the axe without too many being upset.

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Re: SHEMP ORIGINAL FOOTAGE VS. SHEMP STOCK FOOTAGE (Preliminary Round)
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2010, 07:33:22 PM »
FRIGHT NIGHT
OUT WEST
DUNKED IN THE DEEP
BOOTY AND THE BEAST
BRIDELESS GROOM
RIP SEW AND STITCH
BUBBLE TROUBLE
OF CASH AND HASH
PARDON MY CLUTCH
KNUTZY KNIGHTS
FIDDLERS THREE
SCOTCHED IN SCOTLAND
HEAVENLY DAZE
I'M A MONKEYS UNCLE
CRIME ON THEIR HANDS
THE GHOST TALKS
WHO DONE IT?
HOKUS POKUS
FUELIN' AROUND
MALICE IN THE PALACE
VAGABOND LOAFERS
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Re: SHEMP ORIGINAL FOOTAGE VS. SHEMP STOCK FOOTAGE (Preliminary Round)
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2010, 07:47:13 PM »
So out of 174 Curly/Shemp shorts this eliminates 21. When you include the one Bessier short it means we still have to get rid of 24 shorts before the tourney starts. That will be interesting to see which ones arent in the tourney. Id say late Curlys like Rhythm and Weep, Three Lone Wolves, and Beer Barrell Polecats can get the axe without too many being upset.

It's been quite a painstaking process, let me tell you.  It'll be shorts with low ratings both on this site and imdb, so I hope not too many people will complain that their favorite got left off.
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Re: SHEMP ORIGINAL FOOTAGE VS. SHEMP STOCK FOOTAGE (Preliminary Round)
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2010, 08:12:57 PM »
Thank You Everyone:

My votes:

"FRIGHT NIGHT"
"OUT WEST"
"HOLD THAT LION!"
"BRIDELESS GROOM"
"RIP, SEW, AND STITCH"
"ALL GUMMED UP"
"OF CASH AND HASH"
"WHAM-BAM-SLAM!"
"SQUAREHEADS OF THE ROUND TABLE"
"FIDDLERS THREE"
"HOT SCOTS"
"BEDLAM IN PARADISE"
"I'M A MONKEY'S UNCLE"
"CRIME ON THEIR HANDS"
"CREEPS"
"WHO DONE IT?"
"HOKUS POKUS"
"FUELIN' AROUND"
"MALICE IN THE PALACE"
"SCHEMING SCHEMERS"

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Re: SHEMP ORIGINAL FOOTAGE VS. SHEMP STOCK FOOTAGE (Preliminary Round)
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2010, 10:18:10 PM »
FRIGHT NIGHT
OUT WEST
HOLD THAT LION
HUSBANDS BEWARE
SING A SONG OF SIX PANTS
BUBBLE TROUBLE
SHIVERING SHERLOCKS
PARDON MY CLUTCH
SQUAREHEADS OF THE ROUNDTABLE
FIDDLERS THREE
HOT SCOTS
BEDLAM IN PARADISE
I'M A MONKEYS UNCLE
CRIME ON THEIR HANDS
THE GHOST TALKS
WHO DONE IT?
HOKUS POKUS
FUELIN' AROUND
MALICE IN THE PALACE
VAGABOND LOAFERS
DUNKED IN THE DEEP
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Re: SHEMP ORIGINAL FOOTAGE VS. SHEMP STOCK FOOTAGE (Preliminary Round)
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2010, 05:57:26 AM »
If a remake beats an original, it will overtake the original's spot in the tourney.  Vote away!

FRIGHT NIGHT VS. FLING IN THE RING
OUT WEST VS. PALS AND GALS
HOLD THAT LION VS. BOOTY AND THE BEAST VS. LOOSE LOOT (only vote one)
BRIDELESS GROOM VS. HUSBANDS BEWARE
SING A SONG OF SIX PANTS VS. RIP SEW AND STITCH
ALL GUMMED UP VS. BUBBLE TROUBLE
SHIVERING SHERLOCKS VS. OF CASH AND HASH
PARDON MY CLUTCH VS. WHAM BAM SLAM
SQUAREHEADS OF THE ROUNDTABLE VS. KNUTZY KNIGHTS
FIDDLERS THREE VS. MUSTY MUSKETEERS
HOT SCOTS VS. SCOTCHED IN SCOTLAND
HEAVENLY DAZE VS. BEDLAM IN PARADISE
I'M A MONKEYS UNCLE VS. STONE AGE ROMEOS
CRIME ON THEIR HANDS VS. HOT ICE
THE GHOST TALKS VS. CREEPS
WHO DONE IT? VS. FOR CRIMIN OUT LOUD
HOKUS POKUS VS. FLAGPOLE JITTERS
FUELIN' AROUND VS. HOT STUFF
MALICE IN THE PALACE VS. RUMPUS IN THE HAREM
VAGABOND LOAFERS VS. SCHEMING SCHEMERS

You forgot:
DUNKED IN THE DEEP VS. COMMOTION ON THE OCEAN

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Re: SHEMP ORIGINAL FOOTAGE VS. SHEMP STOCK FOOTAGE (Preliminary Round)
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2010, 08:21:16 AM »
You forgot:
DUNKED IN THE DEEP VS. COMMOTION ON THE OCEAN

Good catch!  HOW did we all miss this one?!?

Here are my pics:

FRIGHT NIGHT
OUT WEST
HOLD THAT LION
BRIDELESS GROOM
SING A SONG OF SIX PANTS
ALL GUMMED UP
SHIVERING SHERLOCKS
PARDON MY CLUTCH
SQUAREHEADS OF THE ROUNDTABLE
FIDDLERS THREE
HOT SCOTS
BEDLAM IN PARADISE
I'M A MONKEYS UNCLE
CRIME ON THEIR HANDS
THE GHOST TALKS
WHO DONE IT?
HOKUS POKUS
FUELIN' AROUND
MALICE IN THE PALACE
VAGABOND LOAFERS

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Re: SHEMP ORIGINAL FOOTAGE VS. SHEMP STOCK FOOTAGE (Preliminary Round)
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2010, 09:15:04 AM »
You forgot:
DUNKED IN THE DEEP VS. COMMOTION ON THE OCEAN

Thanks for checking that, you da man! 

If anybody wants to edit in their votes on that pairing, please add that in.
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Re: SHEMP ORIGINAL FOOTAGE VS. SHEMP STOCK FOOTAGE (Preliminary Round)
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2010, 09:22:22 AM »

FRIGHT NIGHT
OUT WEST
HOLD THAT LION
BRIDELESS GROOM
SING A SONG OF SIX PANTS
BUBBLE TROUBLE
SHIVERING SHERLOCKS
PARDON MY CLUTCH
SQUAREHEADS OF THE ROUNDTABLE
FIDDLERS THREE
HOT SCOTS
BEDLAM IN PARADISE
I'M A MONKEYS UNCLE
CRIME ON THEIR HANDS
THE GHOST TALKS
WHO DONE IT?
HOKUS POKUS
FUELIN' AROUND
MALICE IN THE PALACE
VAGABOND LOAFERS
DUNKED IN THE DEEP

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Re: SHEMP ORIGINAL FOOTAGE VS. SHEMP STOCK FOOTAGE (Preliminary Round)
« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2010, 07:07:23 AM »
FRIGHT NIGHT
OUT WEST
HOLD THAT LION
BRIDELESS GROOM
SING A SONG OF SIX PANTS
BUBBLE TROUBLE
SHIVERING SHERLOCKS
PARDON MY CLUTCH
SQUAREHEADS OF THE ROUNDTABLE
FIDDLERS THREE
HOT SCOTS
BEDLAM IN PARADISE
I'M A MONKEY'S UNCLE
CRIME ON THEIR HANDS
THE GHOST TALKS
WHO DONE IT?
HOKUS POKUS
FUELIN' AROUND
MALICE IN THE PALACE
VAGABOND LOAFERS
DUNKED IN THE DEEP

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Re: SHEMP ORIGINAL FOOTAGE VS. SHEMP STOCK FOOTAGE (Preliminary Round)
« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2010, 01:23:26 PM »
My vote on the original vs remakes is to vote for all of the original shorts with the exceptions to cast votes for "Bedlam In Paradise" and "Loose Loot".

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Re: SHEMP ORIGINAL FOOTAGE VS. SHEMP STOCK FOOTAGE (Preliminary Round)
« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2010, 06:57:42 AM »
I haven't watched many of these (especially the remakes) in a while, so I'm not totally sure what my opinions would be in all cases. But here are some I'm sure of (all originals):

FRIGHT NIGHT
BRIDELESS GROOM
SING A SONG OF SIX PANTS
HEAVENLY DAZE
I'M A MONKEYS UNCLE
CRIME ON THEIR HANDS
MALICE IN THE PALACE
VAGABOND LOAFERS
DUNKED IN THE DEEP

There may be cases where I'd prefer the remakes, but I don't know what those would be.
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Re: SHEMP ORIGINAL FOOTAGE VS. SHEMP STOCK FOOTAGE (Preliminary Round)
« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2010, 04:28:40 PM »
With the previous Joe Besser rounds, all the shorts were fairly fresh in my mind thanks to the recent DVD set, but these took a lot longer to decide on. I had to rewatch some again for comparisson.

FRIGHT NIGHT
PALS AND GALS
BOOTY AND THE BEAST
BRIDELESS GROOM
SING A SONG OF SIX PANTS
BUBBLE TROUBLE
OF CASH AND HASH
PARDON MY CLUTCH
SQUAREHEADS OF THE ROUNDTABLE
MUSTY MUSKETEERS
SCOTCHED IN SCOTLAND
HEAVENLY DAZE
STONE AGE ROMEOS
CRIME ON THEIR HANDS
THE GHOST TALKS
FOR CRIMIN OUT LOUD
HOKUS POKUS
FUELIN' AROUND
MALICE IN THE PALACE
VAGABOND LOAFERS
DUNKED IN THE DEEP

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Re: SHEMP ORIGINAL FOOTAGE VS. SHEMP STOCK FOOTAGE (Preliminary Round)
« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2010, 04:39:16 PM »
I had to rewatch some again for comparisson.

Awesome! Exactly what this tournament should be doing.

I'm all the way through 1950 in giving each short an average score between this site and imdb, and after that, I get to decide the match-ups and what doesn't make the final 128.  Overall, I'd say the ratings seem fairly accurate.  A few shorts seem higher scored than I'd imagine, one seems much lower due to an incredibly high ranking on this site but a much lower one on imdb, and the number one seed, while a good short, I think will surprise people.

Anyway, Saturday draws closer.

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Re: SHEMP ORIGINAL FOOTAGE VS. SHEMP STOCK FOOTAGE (Preliminary Round)
« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2010, 09:05:30 PM »
FRIGHT NIGHT
PALS AND GALS
LOOSE LOOT
HUSBANDS BEWARE
SING A SONG OF SIX PANTS
BUBBLE TROUBLE
OF CASH AND HASH
WHAM BAM SLAM
SQUAREHEADS OF THE ROUNDTABLE
FIDDLERS THREE
HOT SCOTS
BEDLAM IN PARADISE
STONE AGE ROMEOS
CRIME ON THEIR HANDS
THE GHOST TALKS
WHO DONE IT?
HOKUS POKUS
FUELIN' AROUND
MALICE IN THE PALACE
VAGABOND LOAFERS
DUNKED IN THE DEEP

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Re: SHEMP ORIGINAL FOOTAGE VS. SHEMP STOCK FOOTAGE (Preliminary Round)
« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2010, 08:07:59 AM »
BEDLAM IN PARADISE and BUBBLE TROUBLE both are winners and take over the seeds of HEAVENLY DAZE and ALL GUMMED UP respectively.  Everything else, the originals won.
"Those are the three elements, I think, that go into being happy: Find something you love, be good at it, and have other people pat you on the back and say "good job." - George Carlin